Another Reader's Question: Where Are the Horse Campers?
The comments to my previous post certainly served to highlight some of the reasons why many shows, circuits and systems have seen declines in participation. I'm sure that the Horse&Rider reader who wrote to me with the original questions about show decline will appreciate all the input. I let her know she could catch the discussion here.
Now, here's part of a letter from a reader involved in a completely different form of horse activity--one that also shows signs of being in decline.
Her family runs an outfitting/packing business in the mountains of southwestern Colorado. Her concern:
"Our inquiries from folks about our horseback services have been steadily dropping from season to season. We are in good communications with the other outfitters in our area, and they are discussing the same problem. It seems that the general public is less interested in hitting the trail in the high country. Even our friends who work in the Forest Service are shocked by the decline in the use of the wilderness. Seems like backcountry use is becoming extinct."
As it turns out, studies show that visits to roadless backcountry areas are indeed in decline in general. Furthermore, the average age of those who do partake of such primitive recreation is on the rise--an indicator that young people aren't coming along in adequate numbers to take the place of those who cease participating due to older age. (That's the thing about primitive forms of recreation, like horse camping: You have to be able-bodied and in reasonably good health to do it.)
So where do you come in on this subject?
Do you do any kind of overnight trail riding/horse camping at all, even if it's not out into designated wilderness but on tamer trails? If so, what participation patterns do you see?
If it's something you used to do, but have given up--how come?
If you're among those whose Bucket List includes "go on horse-packing trip in mountains," what's kept you from gettin' goin' and crossing that one off the list?
--And feel free to point out any of the ironies between the previous post's comments on the lines of "why I don't show," and this one's subject of primitive horse-recreation.
I mean, here we have a horse activity with no judging/politics, no "social requirement" of bling, silver or fancy anything, no points chasing, and very little in the way of expense for the sake of trendiness. Horse camping, in many ways, is the antithesis of horse showing.
Are we that addicted now to our digital devices, Internet connections, and full-service bathroom facilities to make us contributors to this activity's downturn, too? Or what?


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I have never been much of a camper, but with the economy the way it is, the price of gas, and the PITA of getting someone reliable to look after our zoo while we're gone, we don't travel together much at all. I only haul the horses if they need to go to the vet (to avoid the farm call $), or if I want/need to ride in my trainer's arena, and the latter is an extravagance, at the moment. We have not vacationed, per se, in years because of all of the above.
The generations behind ours (or at least my son's) are indeed THAT plugged in. Not only that, but many of them don't look at outdoor activities as desirable -- they might sweat, get dirty, or exhaust themselves. My DIL camping could be likened to Britney Spears camping -- she might break a fake nail or get dirt on her Coach purse and shoes. Except for walking his dogs occasionally, my son (age 23) is a spud. You could weave the thread of this discussion into the problem of overweight America and it wouldn't be a huge stretch.
I thought that after my son left home, my life would slow down and become less crazy and chaotic. Right. I find my employer piling more and more work on all of us, so that every day, they are getting more than a strict 8-hour day from us. For a device that was invented to make the lives of workers easier, it sure seems like I work a whole lot harder since the advent of computers. I find myself running around after work doing errands. By the time the weekend rolls around, I'm whupped am lucky if I can muster the energy to get out with the horses.
That's not the only type of leisure activity that is suffering. Many hobbies and handicrafts are dying out because younger people don't want to be bothered with learning a skill and working hard to perfect it. If they can't do it once and be good at it, they aren't interested. Most of the people who do miniatures, trains, wood burning, carving, beading, needlework, weaving, quilting, etc. are of a certain age. There just isn't the same level of interest in such things as there used to be. The whole time my kid was growing up, I kept trying to encourage him to take up some sort of hobby, and he just never plugged in. My DIL asked for a dollhouse for Christmas. I gave her one already built (along with a book and the promise that I'd help her, if she wished) that she could paint, paper and furnish. She has done nothing with it, and I believe is waiting for me to do it for her. (Keep on waiting, honey.)
I think it's a whole lot of forces that you could collectively call "the times" that are contributing to the decline of the outdoor way of life, at least as our generation defines it. Who knows, maybe as succeeding generations get a little older and (hopefully) have more leisure time and disposable income, we may see a resurgence.
If I win the pink trailer, I may reconsider my stance on camping ;-)
I never have been a camper; I like my comforts. I would think that one problem now, for horse campers & non-horse campers, is the cost. Certainly not the same as showing, but still there is an investment in equipment and supplies. There is also the aspect of planning the entire thing which can be time consuming. Even if one goes with a guide/tour, it still costs & needs planning time. When the economy picks up, I suspect back country usage will pick up to some extent also.
I agree that the younger generations are not so much into outdoors activity, except for the few doing extreme sports and they are not doing camping as that is not extreme enough. If they can't get killed, it is boring! And I agree with Leah Fry above about the other handwork crafts also dropping back. Instant gratification has been the norm for too long now. Camping does not well fit into instant gratification.
I have a used books store and most of my customers are 50+ years in age. I am always happy to see younger folks coming for a book, but they are not common.
Just my opinions...
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Leah,
Kind of off-topic, but thank you for bringing up the subject of The Pink Trailer.
I just found out that raffle tickets are still available, for the drawing to be held Feb. 14. The Pink Trailer blog has info on how to obtain tickets, and also (as Leah knows!) has delicious photos of the fully decorated pink trailer itself.
Going to go see if I can find the blog link....
In our area, the majority of trail riders are women. My husband rode a good bit several years back, but he is just not interested. Every trip that I have taken for the last three years has been with women. I have never camped in a real remote area. If I did so, I am not saying I need a man for security but I would rather my husband was around. Last year was the first time I camped, usually we stay in a cabin. It was not remote. It was fun, but a lot of work. Will do so again. I liked being close to the horses.
Horse camping alive and well from my perspective! But that is what we do... The difference between today and a few years ago is the price of fuel. But we just stay closer to home now. Also, take advantage of state parks where camping fees are minimal whereas a few years ago we may have tried more private facilities.
We have good horses, a nice trailer and a truck that we hope will last a few more years. We have growing kids that at best, will probably only want to hang with us at campgrounds another year or so. But I don't plan to stop.
I didn't reply to the show question because its not my gig. Expense for class fees & all that waiting to ride around an arena just isn't for me. I can drive 100 miles to a favorite campground (today for $50 diesel round trip), pay $10 a night camping -- with groceries - still under $100 for a family of 4 for 2.5 days of riding.
We also ride on the trails every Wednesday night during season. Its our designated ride night. Although we don't have quite as many riders at the trails that are a little farther out, people still save the night to ride, but may ride closer to their particular area.
I don't plan to give up horse trail riding or camping. I have reduced my herd so that I can pay less keeping a horse and more for the fun that goes with them.
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We are in our Utah trails every week during better weather than this. I do have to get the trailer and the horses up to the trail heads. We meet tons of riders, mountain bikers, hikers on those trails. The biggest issue to to get away from the 4-wheelers and motor bikes. Some weekends the parking is very tight, with many trailers. My son does mountain biking and he and his friends often go several times a week. Some of my horse riding friends are also mountain bikers, but not the young kind, the over 50 kind.
We are lucky in that regard. There are no state parks that we ride in that allows motorized vehicles on the trails. So no dirt bikes or ATV's. Some of the federal land and private parks do. Luckily, so far when we have come upon them, they have been real respectful.
Currently I do not do any trail or overnight camping with my horse. Right now my horse is only two and I also have a three year old daughter. Both of these things are keeping me pretty close to home right now. I was surprised to hear that backcountry use is declining. We just recently moved back to the front range of Colorado from Texas and I can't wait to get into the mountains! However I will not go into the backcountry yet, I am not educated enough to not get lost. I plan on using my horse for trail riding and hopefully camping in the future. The factors I see right now that might stand in the way are the fact that I do not own a trailer and my horse is going to need some serious training time before we venture too far into the wilderness. Also I would probably want someone to go with me. It does not seem wise to head out into the wild blue yonder completely alone. I know people do it, I just don't think that I would be comfortable doing it.
That brings me to my next problem. My husband does not like to ride. He grew up ranching/rodeoing and considers horses work. *sigh* So I guess I will be dragging my horse loving friends around with me wether they like it or not!
Taking a vacation with an outfitter is on my "bucket list." Currently the things holding me back are that my daughter is only three and I don't yet leave her for extended periods of time. Also someone to go with. As I said before the horses aren't my husbands cup of tea and even if I have the cash to go my friends my not. I am only 30 though, so I feel that I have some time to accomplish this one.
Ditching all the digital devices wouldn't break my heart at all. The only thing I really like to have is a bathroom. I don't mind getting dirty, I just like to be able to wash it off at the end of the day!
I wonder if it has anything to with the grass-roots Self-Sufficient movement. Many have gardens and animals to tend to and take care of and can't leave for a week long horse camping trip. And they are often focused on living simply and within their means, which cuts out expensive vacation costs.
I have a back country horse camping trip on my bucket list, but I have too many critters to care for..and well there is the issue that I can't walk or ride for quite some time now.....lol :P
So, this summer is bust.
~Lisa
I used to do quite a bit of horse camping, my extended family still does. Iin fact they belong to a club that has a members only campground set up specifically for horses.
Time has prevented me from horse camping. My job keeps me super busy, I have a long commute and the weekends are often full of the errands that got set aside during the work week.
Sad to say, I truly miss it and I want to do it again. But right now it's just not fitting into my schedule. My boyfriend and I (& our sheltie) do take the occaisional weekend to got hiking in some of the state/local parks near us. It's very hit and miss in terms of the number of people you encounter, sometimes the place is full other times you encounter 2 people the entire time you are there.
I REALLY like camping, I have all the gear, I just need to find (or make the time). My family has gotten into camping in recent years, but they stick to the campgrounds instead of the back country. I think they like getting away for the weekend but don't want to give up a nice hot shower!
Sadly, I think a lot of wholesome, outdoor activities have gone by the wayside like the old classic clean wholesome Western Movies...(remember them and the great scenery?).
Nower days, people need instant gratification, instant messaging, instant food....& we have no one to blame but ourselves...I am equally guilty. My DH & mine, our jobs required a lot out of us, especially since we were focused on an early retirement. So we sold our motorcycles, boat and other "toys"... Then the economy pooped and now we have to be mindful of our spending. I am sad to admitt that DH & I did not instill the love of the out doors with our daughter.(we were to focused on work) She has no desire to "rought it". Even DH has expressed that he has done his share of camping and isn't to excited when I suggest we go camping...thus one of the reasons I joined Sisters on the Fly. So I can get my almost "roughing fix"...lol!
I always say, 'every problem begins with Us...and it is Us to fix it'.
I hope that the decline of camping, riding & back packing is only temporary.
Maybe if more people would watch their local PBS channels they might get a re-newed interest in the great outdoors. There are such wonderful shows to support getting out of our Uber comfy zone!
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What I've been hearing from others on this subject is that today's youth are more interested in riding ATVs or snowmobiles out in the more primitive areas than they are in riding horses or going it on foot.
One item was a lengthy email from a Forest Service employee who directly observes motorized use going up as horseback and on-foot use goes down.
Hi Juli,
I haven't checked your blog in a few days, and here is this post of such concern and interest to me! Thank you for addressing this topic,and to your readers for sharing their insight. It is fascinating - I've read them all, and except for one fellow die-hard camper/horsewoman, I can see so many logical reasons... and the few sad ones, like yes, the increase in ATVs, etc. Unfortunately, you're right, though, I do not see this changing. Time to relook at the big picture. And that's OK. Life is always about change, and that's what brings out the beautiful creativity in us all. So, in the meanwhile, while I'm figuring out how to make it all work... I have been working on my new blog. Just a little horsey, but mostly about our rather odd, remote high mountain home life. I know how busy you are, but if you ever get a chance, please take a look at http://highmountainmuse.wordpress.com. I hope you'll enjoy it. Times are changing, I will change too. It will still be a beautiful world, and a wonderful Wilderness for me and my horses to enjoy... though perhaps less crowded! Thank you for caring and sharing. Gin.
Gin,
Thanx for your post on my blog, love your museings...I hope you don't mind but I added you to my favorite links on my blog. I think your blog is wonderful & I want to share it with others.
gracie~katmom
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Hey there, Gin,
Thank YOU for supplying the original letter/email to H&R, bringing up the subject of horse people's use of backcountry opportunities.
Seeing as how I had just posted something from the reader who had questions about show participation, it only seemed fair to give voice to what's going on in another area of horse activity.
I'll be delighted to visit your blog. And also am glad to see you here, and hope you'll comment again on topics of interest.
I am sad to say I havnt gone camping with my horses in years, I dont know why, maybe because my hubby isnt a horse person we hunt and camp then, but I havnt taken the horses. Our wilderness area is so over populated with people in the summer, and during hunting season, it isnt funny, I mean no parking room at the trailhead into the wildernes, we shake our heads and wonder where they all come from, hikers and bicycle riders mostly, as it is a non moterized area! But the area is within an hour and a half from Portland easy, so.... there are a lot of Oregon plates, here in Washington wilderness. The other thing that makes us not want to camp is all the commercial bear grass and mushroom pickers we run into up there, and they leave dirty disgusting camps, garbage and drug paraphanalia, I have seen it with my own eyes, the creeks lined with toilet paper, it is sick. At least here in southern Wa. there is no lack of use of the back country, unfortuatly.
My daughter and I do camp with the horse at equestrian team meets, does that count LOL the horse gets a nice stall, we get to camp.
We here in NY (yes, NY and that's NOT NYC!!! most of NY is beautiful land with rolling hills, mountains, lakes, forests etc.) have several dedicated campgrounds for horsecamping, complete with covered tie stalls and miles of trails. You can bring your horses, campers and get back to the basics of eat, sleep and ride (and not necessarily in that order!). It's a wonderful way to have a vacation and reconnect to what's important. We have trailriding clubs that get together for a week at at time at these places, small groups of friends etc. Horse camping is alive and well in NY!
I have been to some of New York's countryside and agree it is beautiful land. Hope I get to visit again sometime!
We used to horse camp every weekend in Kananskis country in southern Alberta. Then we moved to BC and got busy breeding horses and competing.
We keep saying we will go but it is difficult to find the time to actually go for a weekend or even a few days in the summer. Busy either showing horses or training young ones.
Yes, miss it quite a bit but often go out and help a friend at a ranch that is very back country.
Nancy!
I remembered reading something about this topic awhile back & decided to hunt it down...Found It...it was in the June 2008 issue of Cowboys & Indians magazine, page 166 & 167. Titled: "Park And Ride. In Our Underfunded National Parks, Riders And Packers Are Caught Between Land Use And Land Preservation". It also gives some wonderful common sense ideas for Low-Impact Horse camping as well as websites to visit.
You might still be able to find this article on their web: www.cowboysandindians.com
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We love to camp so we made one! we can stay close to home and camp in our own back yard and ride all over the place! There are lots of places here in North East Tennessee to camp with horses. We are developing a camp on our 104 acre farm for pople to bring their horses, families & friends to. We offer trails trails & more trails, fishing, hiking, camping and whatever else you want to do outdoors. We encouage everyone to get outside with your families and have some fun! No television or video games here! Although we do offer free wifi! hahahaha!
Be good to one another!
Pam Crick
McMillian Catfish Farms
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I've been horse camping in Western PA with my husband and various friends three times. We're not doing it this year because of fuel costs. I noticed we were the only ones in the busy campground that weren't 'professional' campers. Most were older folks with gaited horses who spend their summers moving from campground to campground. Well, we are living proof that not all the younger generation are glued to their computers! We packed up two English show horses and my husband's weighty QH and headed off for a break from showing and making hay! All the horses are experienced trail mounts but we are camping greenhorns and were welcomed with open arms. We were offered fresh shrimp and red wine by our genial neighbors on arrival. I'd love to do it again this year but it'll be tricky...
Horse camping is alive and well in the Shawnee National Forest in Southern Illinois. Southern Ill. is quite green and lush with rolling hills. YOu are almost in KEntucky. But the trails are not leisurely strolls. Can be steep, rocky, lots of water crossings. My friends who live closer ride there all the time weather permitting. THere is a 9 day ride in the summer. The Cedar Lake Campground in Vienna, Il. is often full (with Horses) in the summer and on weekends.
I am an over 50's horsewoman and outdoor enthuiast. I really want to do a backpacking trip. What stops me? Well, let's say I did have the money and the time and someone to care for my old timers, I still would not go. Why, because this old body is failing me. I do not know if it would hold up. I was on a dream trip to a ranch, lots and lots of riding and hiking and I could not complete a hike because of my knees. Altho it was embarassing, no one else was affected. Everyone else just went on. What if I was up in the mountains in the middle of nowhere and my knees or back failed me? What then? Also, My Morgan is gaited. A gaited horse is much easier on older bodies.
I am not willing to give up riding. In fact, I ride more now than I ever have, except for when I was a carefree teen. I do exercises, stretches and take supplements to help my knees and back. I love to be outdoors. I love to ride. I want to do some sort of backpack trip. I don't care about the dirt or lack of electronics or comforts. I am concerned about how to address my physical issues.
Is there some sort of backcountry niche for us older, still willing but arthritic or otherwise compromised folks?
Sherry Lindon
For several years, my husband and I took horseback pack trips in the San Juan mountain wilderness area along the Conejos River. Some were just day trips, others were either 3 day or 5 day trips. We always used Outback Outfitters to guide, they provided everything except your fishing pole. Wonderful service, good equipment and horses. Very careful and took excellent care of us. They are based out of Platoro, Colorado. There was the guide and a cook, their dog and Keith and I. Wonderful experience. We have not been able to go in the past few years because my dad is in poor health and we take care of him. It is not that we don't want to continue the trail riding/camping experience, but our life situation has changed so that we just are not able to do these things right now. I would encourage anyone who has the opportunity to do things like this to take the advantage to do so. Sue Watkins
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